My folks called me a few hours ago with this.
The rumor going around here is that the guy was a JW at the KH by himself and committed suicide by blowing it up.
My father helped on the quick build of that KH.
http://www.myfoxkc.com/myfox/pages/news/detail?contentid=7071308&version=3&locale=en-us&layoutcode=tsty&pageid=3.2.1 .
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My folks called me a few hours ago with this.
The rumor going around here is that the guy was a JW at the KH by himself and committed suicide by blowing it up.
My father helped on the quick build of that KH.
some persons need to feel they are validated because they don't have much going for them otherwise.
being a part of jehovah's organization makes them feel special.
being different from other religions makes them feel recognized,.
Amama-
We had the same FS experience as children it seems.
I had a dog sic'd on me as well (bit my calf) and f**kheads w/ firearms. The firearm wasn't pointed at me, but rather was aimed at the eldery JW man I was working with (I was standing right next to him).
http://www.myfoxkc.com/myfox/pages/news/detail?contentid=7071308&version=3&locale=en-us&layoutcode=tsty&pageid=3.2.1 .
last edited: saturday, 26 jul 2008, 8:40 pm cdt.
created: saturday, 26 jul 2008, 6:41 pm cdt .
I live in the Independence/Kansas City area and the JWs are lighting up each other's phones.
for years the gb has been creating these dramas for the conventions, trying to use the bible to provoke guilt trips and make the r/f obey, but none of those have the whole message they wanted to get across, meaning: "the perfect jw family".
so, they decided to create this non-biblical account and voila!
they have the perfect drama.
I remember one DC drama from years ago. I can't remember the year is was presented or it's name but it was basically about how JW children will do naughty things if they're not constantly watched, hounded, and made to feel like shit 24/7.
I think it was put on in the 80's. Hopefully my memory is serving me correctly.
It was a "modern day" drama. A JW family (women wore dresses while at home relaxing donchaknow) had 2 teenagers; a boy and a girl.
The boy liked football a lot and wanted to play. He talked to his parents. Naturally they pulled out a bible and a WT that warned against playing sports. The family discussed that while playing football is fine, if the son joined the team, he might miss meetings and field service. The son agreed that playing football and missing meetings is wrong.
The girl kept wanting to go out with her friends, one of whom was another JW kid who was not good association. The parents warned her not to go out with her friends, especially if the other girl would be going. The daughter said she wouldn't go anymore but then snuck around behind their backs. The girl was spotted by another member of the congregation hanging out with the bad association girl. They appeared to be going into an R rated movie. The cong. member went running to the girl's parents.
When the girl arrived home, the parents were waiting for her. The father looked concerned and a little angry. The mother was sobbing on the sofa. Sobbing.
The girl was lecutred and chastised (with scriptures and a WT), grounded, and had to call the other girl's parents (while her parents listened in) to tell them where she and their daughter went.
some persons need to feel they are validated because they don't have much going for them otherwise.
being a part of jehovah's organization makes them feel special.
being different from other religions makes them feel recognized,.
No. I felt worse.
I guess when you're told how sinful, lowly, worthless, not-good-enough, you are nearly every day of your life (doubly so at the meetings) you tend to believe it.
I was brought up thinking I was scum.
as heard at the district convention.
9 part symposium on how to display the fruitages of the spirit.
goodness.
as some know here - i was born in the witnesses .
raised in it and stayed in for 44 long years !
i don't believe in armageddon.
Thanks Flipper (Mrs. Flipper too).
I was feeling angry, hopeless, and sad because of the damage this cult inflicts on people, but your post cheered me up a little.
i've been thinking about what its like to be born and raised as a jw and the mistakes that parents make as an almost direct result of this cult.
for one thing, the children are not allowed to think freely, and if they say or do one little thing their parents disapprove of, they are chastised and basically bullied into abandoning that thought or action.
another thing is that no matter what you do, and no matter how good your reputation is among friends, teachers, administrators, etc if you don't want to go to meetings, and don't believe in this faith, they do what they can to make you feel lower then dirt for this and will often resort to verbal abuse, and sometimes violence to force you to believe in them and conform.
Vent away. I was born and raised in this insipid cult and I still carry the damage with me.
based on the material below from the faithful and discreet slave, i was wondering if any of you experienced any of this "enlightment" during your jw sojurn.
based on your pictures, i would have to say you must have been weak in the faith.
what is puzzling though, is why did michael jackson dissassociate himself just before reaching perfection?
In all fairness, all of society, not just the WT, held prejudiced and bigoted ideals and not only was is acceptable, it was encouraged.
There were lots of "scientific" (i.e. pseudo) skulduggery adventures where "scientists" presented evidence of caucasian superiority over the "dark" races with things like cranial capacity, facial features, intelligence, etc.
My now deceased, long time JW grandmother would say racist things (especially when she developed dementia) without a trace of malice (e.g. she would say 'colored,' and 'picaninny'). "It was just how it was in those days" was the explanation. Hell, one of her best little old lady friends was an equally elderly black woman. That doesn't excuse it, but it was interesting how my grandmother could think those things and then have a black woman as a good friend, and not have any cognitive dissonance about it.
I guess back then people thought that it was rational, and even supported by science, to believe that whites were superior.
i was out in service during a week day with a car group of sister pioneers...very few brothers went out in the week...we had 6 people and i was the only male...we arrived at our street and the head sister pioneer turned to everyone and said, "ok you 2 start at this end, you 2 start on the other side and work this way and me and bro (myself) will start here...she then got a horrified look on her face and turned to me and said, "if that's ok with you"...i just said, "sounds good to me"...at that moment i thought how sad she had to defer to my so called headship...
For me, this was always huge, and I was always nauseated by this...
I remember when I was baptized, as a teenager, and suddenly I was telling a Special Pioneer what to do, and a ton of devoted Reg Pio sisters who literally went out in service every day and had been doing so for decades. I just didnt get it. But what really blew my mind was when there was this fricken 9 year old kid who got baptized and suddenly these women had to differ to this kids "headship" when he led the group and the kid couldnt even make it through the daily text...
Yeah, that is really how God wants it...
Seriously?! I know the truth (heh heh) is usually stranger than fiction, but was that for real?!